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What are the problems with the pleasures of worldly objects and bodily senses?
Guru: And then there are problems with these pleasures.
Tom: You mean even pleasures have problems?
Guru: These pleasures are only transient.
Tom: You mean they are only temporal?
Guru: So after awhile, these pleasures are not pleasurable anymore.
Tom: Then, what happens?
Guru: Then, people have to look for new pleasures.
Tom: So, new pleasures after new pleasures.
Guru: Until there is no new pleasure.
Tom: Then, end of pleasure.
Guru: Then, end of joy.
Tom: You mean no more en-joy.
Guru: There is another problem with these pleasures.
Tom: What is the problem?
Guru: These pleasures can be expensive.
Tom: You mean they are not cheap?
Guru: And then it’s even more expensive to look for pleasures after pleasures.
Tom: Too expensive to look for pleasures after pleasures.
Guru: Not many people can afford to look for pleasures after pleasures.
Tom: So, there is no pleasure for people who cannot afford.